Originally by: Research Rachel

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Originally by: Solid Prefekt

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Originally by: Mara Rinn

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The Rapier with 3 e-war mods is 100% effective against 3 targets. The Falcon with 3 ECM mods is still not 100% effective against 1 target.

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The Rapier is 100 effective in reducing speed by 60%. A Falcon has a 98% in 100% stopping someone from targeting. If you want to be fair lets make the Falcon work 100% of the time but be only 60% effective. So you will only take 40% damage when you jam a ship. And lets drop your range to under 40km also. Now we are fair.

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if your a cepter/cruiser then yes, maybe a falcon can jam you 100% of the time, but seriously... anything bigger than a cruiser, hacs, bc's, bs's, recons, even in a max skilled falcon they have a hard time jamming.

I know, i fly a maxed skilled Falcon and i know what sort of jams i get. If people fit ECCM, i'd have serious problems getting a jam.

You do realise you have to relock a target after the cycle?

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Originally by: Destructor1792

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Edited by: Destructor1792 on 28/03/2009 16:03:45

Originally by: Johan Sabbat

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Originally by: Destructor1792

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No.2 : ECCM - Pretty much useless - enough posts on the forums about this so won't bother with details.

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I totally disagree with point 2.

IF you fit the correct racial ECCM, turn it on and still get 'perma-jammed' then it means the jamming ship is devoting a large proportion of its jamming capacity against you.

This leaves your mates to go about ganking his gang.

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And herein lies the problem.. The Mythical Perma Jam which apparently doesn't happen but we all know does.
In theory, by overloading said ECCM should counter this, but doesn't! No other module ingame has this ability to stop your victim (soz, target) from fighting back once a successfull hit has been achieved.

FOF;s could be a choice but are highly unpredictable and are only good if you have launchers fitted (which rules out about 90% of PVP ships) & also have the issue of lack of range.
iir, they also go for the nearest hostile near you (which in itself can cause alot of problems )

Drones are the same & are only good if the jammer is in your drone control range & you've got them about before he gets a jam on you. Also, they've a habit of doing their own stuff which can cause you even more problems

This leads to one of 2 conclusions, either ECCM is underpowered or ECM is overpowered!!

**edited bit**

Arakkis, this is a problem all ships have when dealing with EWAR ship bonuses that rely heavily on mid slot fits. Take the rapier for example, It has to sacrifice a few mids to fit a few buffers for the shield. Could go armour, but have u seen its stats??!!

If people choose to fit all mid slots for Ewar instead of sacrificing the odd slot, that's down to their own choice. Not much we can do about that

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Originally by: Ilija Veliki

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after 2 years of training Caldari skills I will not have PVP ship..........

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